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ryan is to try, us a mention, to accelerate the momentum that romney gained last week and try to prevent joe biden from coming out very aggressively and saying, hey, wait a minute. president obama may not have said it, but i'm going to say it tonight. there are contradictions between the romney who was on stage in denver, the romney record. joe biden is an experienced debater. he sometimes makes mistakes verbally. we'll see how he handles that, and paul ryan is young. there's a very large age gap between these two, but he is somebody who is very fluent in policy, as you know. an intellectual leader of the party. i expect he'll be able to hold his own, but we'll have to see exactly how tough these two candidates get with one another while keeping in mind that their job is to focus on the top of the other guy's ticket. ryan on obama and joe biden on mitt romney. >> you are so right, john. that's the key. the tops of the tickets that will really matter at the end of the day or the end of the evening. thanks, john. we'll see you later on in the show and tonight's vice presidential
in the first ten minutes last night, that's if you ask me. the romney-ryan pro-growth revolution is very much under way and let's discuss this whole story and the i my all-star cnbc panel and jared bernstein, former chief economist and vice president joe biden. jennifer rubin, author of "the washington post" right turn blog and jamie peth kuke as, let me start with you. my note is a simple one. when he teed off and just accused of administration of mismanagement and i don't know if he used the word cover up and he said you guys have done everything wrong, to me, that hot topic which is increasingly important in this presidential race, that blew biden up, and that gave the win to ryan who held on for the rest of the hour. what about benghazi and what about biden's lies and falsehoods about benghazi last night? >> joe biden at least got the story in the front page of the new york times who had been burying the story and that's something and i think you're right and that will be a big problem for the obama ticket going forward. the president will have to do clean-up work on tuesday at a time tha
pursues women voters raising the romney/ryan record on abortion and other issues related to women. >> do you think the onus is more on biden to offense? ryan the luxury of sitting back and riding the momentum that's happened since the first debate? >> i think biden does need to go on office but to some degree the bar is higher for paul ryan. in these guys tie which i think they will do it will be a wash, biden has succeeded in stemming the bleeding from the democratic base. and so to that degree, paul can't just go out and be equal to biden. he has to go out and be better than biden. >> he has to be on message. team romney is on a roll, is on a roll and the last week he's on a roll in the polls. that's why i'm saying ryan, he's got to be polite and respectful but on message and i believe economic growth and jobs, is the message. >> he has to have his youth. needs to let his youth take advantage of the full scope of what that energy can bring to the seat. >> there's youth and there's -- -- >> go to cnbc.com. the vice presidential debate is about to start. here's abc's martha raddatz. >> g
romney and paul ryan have laid out a comprehensive plan on what we need to do to get spending under control. president obama hasn't had a budget in four years. we have seen $4 trillion deficits under his lack of leadership with our debt reaching $16 trillion. and as you know, if we stay on this path, by the end of his second term, should he be re-elected, it would be $20 trillion. that's unacceptable. >> is there a way to say that within the framework of what simpson/bowles are now providing, this time with the involvement of a lot of the nation's ceos? >> well, governor romney and paul ryan, like i said, have laid out a plan, not just to bring spending under control, but to reform our tax code, get people working again. because with more people in the work force, we'll be able to generate more income and that will be more money coming in. as you know, right now with 23 million americans struggling for work, many of those underemployed, they can't get good jobs. the amount of income we need just isn't coming in. >> yeah. but what i hear you saying is that it's going to be on your te
that's what he'll go for. on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of defend his candidate and stand up for him, and i think he's also going after foreign policy. joe biden used to be the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> even though he's one of the worst in history. >> paul ryan has no foreign policy experience at all. >> i'm waiting for joe biden appear par thid division of iraq. it's not true. ryan has made had trips abroad including the middle east. >> they did fund-raiser abroad, too. >> i didn't know that. >> they did in london. >> i think joe biden will be very formidable. i think the challenge for paul ryan in the debate is he has to come across in complete control of the facts. when you see a 27-age year difference between these two, it's very easy for a young person like ryan to get schooled by the senior biden. he can't let that happen. at the same time he's got to b
that romney started with last week? >> it didn't need to be a game changing movement. what paul ryan needed to do was make his point to america that he is ready to be vice president and president if need be. and he absolutely did that. he was strong, he was resolute, and he stood up to very childish attacks from joe biden. some of the attacks were disappoint willing, the laughter, the smirking. it was very unvice presidential and unprofessional and at the end if you noticed when it was time to give their closing remarks, joe biden did not thank paul ryan, but paul ryan thanked joe biden. so on the overall picture, paul ryan did it great. does it help the momentum, it does. does it help democrats, it does not. democrats are still struggling take. >> julian, would you at least concede that biden was perhaps unprofessional with the laughter and some of the way he carried himself? >> i think joe biden did yesterday what he needed to do, which he needed to stop the momentum that romney had in the one bad week that the obama campaign has had since the debate last week. and i think biden did that.
that romney and ryan have been making but do it without sounding like a father. you'll have a generational gap on the stage and he has to be aggressive and assertive without looking like he's scolding a child and that will be difficulty that he faces. because lot of americans are looking for that articulation of what the administration has voiced going forward and that is also what he'll have to do. refute the facts, but also continue to give that vision going forward. >> sarah, what are the prospects for him to do that? >> welsh i think that i would expect that with the pressure as high as it is for democrats to recoup the events of the last week and the slippage in the polls asp% penny said, that he will come out guns ablazing. and you're right, he's good at those zingers. but if he overreaches and he's tooing as agrees sif, he'll end up hurting the democratic ticket further. i think the challenge for paul ryan is to really be in command of his facts. he's a smart, smart guy and he has a tendency sometimes to get a little too wonkish. and with such a wide swathe of the american public expect
the audience through the positions which the romney/ryan ticket has taken for 99% of the campaign so far in the last 18 months on tax cuts, on obama care, on dodd-frank, and by the way, on women's health. that's number one. number two, i think would be to raise the question perhaps at the end of the debate or make the point that each of these two guys on the stage is a heartbeat away from the presidency and therefore for the audience and the nation watching, how do they feel about the fitness of each of these two to be on a moment's notice the president of the united states. >> roger, what about the question that came up again and again at the beginning of the presidential debate which is you say it's a $5 trillion tax cut, romney said it's not. he said it was this, it's this back and forth. does biden have to say here's what you're saying right now, which is you'll bring down rates but at the same time you'll be closing loopholes. how do you get into that and what's the winning strategy with it? because the back and forth was -- >> again, becky, nobody's asking me but i would be a littl
%-45% in that state. however, mitt romney got on a wave in denver last week and paul ryan has a chance tonight, guys, to continue that momentum, an interesting match-up, we've seen it before of an older, experienced vice president, a younger less tested running mate. we saw it with dick cheney and with john edwards in 2004. dick cheney got the better of that. we saw it with lloyd benson and dan quayle in 1988. it appeared that lloyd benson got the better of that, but of course george bush and dan quayle won the election. i talked to dan quayle yesterday -- or a few days ago, rather, he said he thinks he helped george h.w. bush in that race, even though he got smacked down with that "you're no jack kennedy" line, because he took the fight to michael dukakis and that's the bottom line that you hear from people who have been through these debates, is that the key for vice presidential candidates, guys, is for them to focus their fire not on the counter pa counterpart standing across the stage from them but rather, on the top of the other ticket. you can expect joe biden's going to be very aggressive in
and republican vice presidential nominee paul ryan are going head to head in their only debate of the cycle. the tax discussion is going to be key. why suz president obama continue to spread falsehoods about the untrue romney $5 trillion tax cut? there is no such thing. but he calls him a liar. and that boils my blood a little bit. let's talk about this for a few moments. cnbc contributor jared bernst n bernstein. jared's got a lot at stake in this debate. >> and art laffer, laffer investments chief investment officer. i want to start with my pal, art laffer. where does this $5 trillion number come from and is it a good or bad thing, the romney tax reform? >> i think the romney tax reform is wonderful. i think what the president did was i think he looked at all the tax rate reductions and didn't realize that romney was also proposing a huge increase in the tax base by eliminating deductions, exemptions, exclusions and other loopholes. and there are lots of them that could be eliminated that will bring it to revenue-neutral. and romney promised it would be revenue-neutral. and i believe him
have gotten the tone and the argument right to come back at what romney and ryan are doing at them. and that tees it up for the debate at hofstra last week. >> and i even likened to like the world cup, remember you got the two teams in the finals and then the guys they beat they play in that game for -- i mean, this was interesting, but it just sets up the next debate to see how the president comes back. >> tuesday night. so this comes very quickly. >> and i watched intrade, it moved up a little. and then all the way back to where it started. >> it's exactly the way the reds are set up for the next round of the playoffs. >> you know, john, here's the thing. they did lose three straight, i'll and i had plit thdmit that. but after spotting them six runs on that grand slam, they battled back. and in the sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth, they had the tying run at home every inning. one inning they had a man on first and second, no outs, the count 3-2, a bad call, they threw the guy out at third. we can't talk -- anyway, i'm not going to obsess over this. >> pain. >> did you catch the j
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here. and, of course, the romney campaign emphasizing that paul ryan is a guy who hasn't had a debate, maybe since high school. so he's debating against joe biden. >> debated -- we've tried to debate ryan here and we've seen him debate with other people, and he's -- i don't know. >> eamon, what about ohio, though? we've talked with chuck todd about this. he sees a way to win without ohio. but basically have to win eight or nine other states. so it's a much more complicated road to the white house if you don't win ohio. so he had said -- he told us a week or two ago that romney would have to make a decision as to whether the pull out of ohio and go for the other states. >> on a couple of polls. >> yeah, it's off the table at this point. >> that's got to be off the table right now. ohio is the linchpin for everything in this campaign. that's why the president was there yesterday. you saw the president leading in o-h-i-o cheer. he needs the college kids to come through for him. he needs the urban cities in ohio to turn out with big, big numbers. otherwise this thing gets very tricky for
, et cetera. look there's no question -- >> axelrod. >> -- governor romney changed his position in that debate radically. first of all he said he would sign the ryan budget which has a 20% tax cut across the board for everybody including the richest americans. number two he never explained and the president didn't call him on it how he'll account for that almost $5 trillion cut, plus the $2 trillion in military spending that they advocate which the defense department and the generals haven't even asked for. there's been no explanation of that and that's a pretty important issue. the president didn't do a good job framing that issue. there's no question. >> you're such a savvy politician. you're the best, and you know, if you lose a game and say well the other guy cheated that makes you look bad. there's no upside to that. you should be advising his people that's not the way to do this. >> and joe, one other thing i want to say, i think jim realized this, i was around for the, president reagan's first re-election debate, you recall he gave a terrible performance, he wandered in h
this thursday on the 11th you've got paul ryan and vice president joe biden. this is going to be very important for obama's effort to stave off romney. then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government report. it does get a lot of attention and we got a race that's plainly at this point even though obama still has a slight advantage in the battleground states this race can go either way. >> interesting. then we got the governor, of course, speaking at vmi about foreign policy, an area for which a little while he appeared to want to take the campaign, at least before the debate. how ground moving is this? >> reporter: i don't think it's very ground moving. it's not what people will vote on. for romney it's an effort to press a leadership advantage which may be one of the things that move the numbers for him after the de
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